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	<title>Comments on: The Problem With Thielemann&#8217;s Dresden New Year&#8217;s Concert</title>
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		<title>By: Ernesto Oppicelli</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ernesto Oppicelli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2019 12:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I use the word &#039;ennable&#039; I simply mean to obey to the authors&#039;s requests. Operetta needs players who sing, that is &#039;singers&#039; as in 
opera.This was demonstrated by artists like René Kollo, Siegfried Jerusalem, Gwyneth Jones etc .... Anyway, chacun à son goût. And ANYWAY I will continue fight against too many assassins that believe in their miracle when &#039;changing&#039; anything ... the style and - as you say - the sparkle that is at the origin ... Well, let&#039;s end the conversation. I know I will not win the battle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I use the word &#8216;ennable&#8217; I simply mean to obey to the authors&#8217;s requests. Operetta needs players who sing, that is &#8216;singers&#8217; as in<br />
opera.This was demonstrated by artists like René Kollo, Siegfried Jerusalem, Gwyneth Jones etc &#8230;. Anyway, chacun à son goût. And ANYWAY I will continue fight against too many assassins that believe in their miracle when &#8216;changing&#8217; anything &#8230; the style and &#8211; as you say &#8211; the sparkle that is at the origin &#8230; Well, let&#8217;s end the conversation. I know I will not win the battle.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kevin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2019 09:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you enjoy your operetta performances &quot;ennobeled,&quot; that is perfectly fine. But here we are talking about &quot;Tonfilmoperetten&quot; that are very famous and very well-known in their original versions, because the stars who premiered these songs/musical numbers are famous. In Germany and Austria at least. They have a specific style, a specific charm, and a way of playing with the music. If you are willing to throw all that over board just to bring &quot;operetta&quot; closer to Verdi and Puccini, then I feel you are betraying the genre and the composer&#039;s original intentions. Would you like to hear a BOHEME/RIGOLETTO sung my pop singers? Yes, it can be done, and it might be enjoyable. But it&#039;s a totally different approach that fans of the &quot;operatic&quot; versions might find questionable. Here it is the same, the other way round. While it&#039;s always great to expand the stylistic spectrum and open new doors of interpretations, this &#039;new&#039; Thielemann door isn&#039;t new, it&#039;s ideologically/politically highly problematic. And the sonic results, as presented here, are questionable. If you consider stating that &quot;criminal,&quot; then so be it. Personally, I&#039;d say that &quot;ennobling&quot; operetta is a criminal offence, because it kills the sparkle and all that is fabulpus about the genre.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you enjoy your operetta performances &#8220;ennobeled,&#8221; that is perfectly fine. But here we are talking about &#8220;Tonfilmoperetten&#8221; that are very famous and very well-known in their original versions, because the stars who premiered these songs/musical numbers are famous. In Germany and Austria at least. They have a specific style, a specific charm, and a way of playing with the music. If you are willing to throw all that over board just to bring &#8220;operetta&#8221; closer to Verdi and Puccini, then I feel you are betraying the genre and the composer&#8217;s original intentions. Would you like to hear a BOHEME/RIGOLETTO sung my pop singers? Yes, it can be done, and it might be enjoyable. But it&#8217;s a totally different approach that fans of the &#8220;operatic&#8221; versions might find questionable. Here it is the same, the other way round. While it&#8217;s always great to expand the stylistic spectrum and open new doors of interpretations, this &#8216;new&#8217; Thielemann door isn&#8217;t new, it&#8217;s ideologically/politically highly problematic. And the sonic results, as presented here, are questionable. If you consider stating that &#8220;criminal,&#8221; then so be it. Personally, I&#8217;d say that &#8220;ennobling&#8221; operetta is a criminal offence, because it kills the sparkle and all that is fabulpus about the genre.</p>
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		<title>By: Ernesto Oppicelli</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ernesto Oppicelli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2019 17:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is too sad to read this review. Il Maestro Thielemann ha nobilitato l&#039;operetta. 
L&#039;operetta non è pop music, se appartiene a un genere che &#039;intrattiene&#039; volentieri il pubblico, allora a questo genere appartiene anche RIGOLETTO e LA BOHÈME. Forse il Sig. Clarke sta dalla parte di chi osanna BALL IM SAVOY della Komische Oper di Berlino - un crimine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is too sad to read this review. Il Maestro Thielemann ha nobilitato l&#8217;operetta.<br />
L&#8217;operetta non è pop music, se appartiene a un genere che &#8216;intrattiene&#8217; volentieri il pubblico, allora a questo genere appartiene anche RIGOLETTO e LA BOHÈME. Forse il Sig. Clarke sta dalla parte di chi osanna BALL IM SAVOY della Komische Oper di Berlino &#8211; un crimine.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert WENNERSTEN</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert WENNERSTEN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2018 13:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Opera singers really shouldn&#039;t try to sing pop music.  They can&#039;t do it.  As a friend of mine once called it:  &quot;The slaughter of the innocents.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opera singers really shouldn&#8217;t try to sing pop music.  They can&#8217;t do it.  As a friend of mine once called it:  &#8220;The slaughter of the innocents.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ulrich Niemsch</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ulrich Niemsch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2018 04:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Congratulation to that fabulous article. I am  lover of many kinds of music, especially operas  and sinfonic music, furtheron so called musicals and operettas. Many operettas are &quot;full&quot; of emotion, the danger is to give them in live concerts to much &quot;pomp&quot;, i.e. just superficial  Interpretation. Only worldwide famous singers are not a guarantee for &quot;recreating&quot;great Music.
. Some conductors leading orchestras (of worldwide the best) with habitude of emperors may show a sense for 

extraordinairy spectacles considering themselves as &quot;Gralshüter&quot; of operas of special composers. The background of some facts (here: Thielemann-concerts) is indeed reading with interest , I agree with many statements, considering its all subjectiv.
. Although I am only &quot;consuming&quot; live Music I am feeling that your article show Your deep love of &quot;good&quot; music..
 I  enjoy music and get unforgettable emotions,, moments of happiness. .    
Concerning political facts (specially Saxonia)there are some contradictions  and (so I am told) there- may be -caused
a reduction of tourists]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulation to that fabulous article. I am  lover of many kinds of music, especially operas  and sinfonic music, furtheron so called musicals and operettas. Many operettas are &#8220;full&#8221; of emotion, the danger is to give them in live concerts to much &#8220;pomp&#8221;, i.e. just superficial  Interpretation. Only worldwide famous singers are not a guarantee for &#8220;recreating&#8221;great Music.<br />
. Some conductors leading orchestras (of worldwide the best) with habitude of emperors may show a sense for </p>
<p>extraordinairy spectacles considering themselves as &#8220;Gralshüter&#8221; of operas of special composers. The background of some facts (here: Thielemann-concerts) is indeed reading with interest , I agree with many statements, considering its all subjectiv.<br />
. Although I am only &#8220;consuming&#8221; live Music I am feeling that your article show Your deep love of &#8220;good&#8221; music..<br />
 I  enjoy music and get unforgettable emotions,, moments of happiness. .<br />
Concerning political facts (specially Saxonia)there are some contradictions  and (so I am told) there- may be -caused<br />
a reduction of tourists</p>
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		<title>By: WTN</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WTN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2018 20:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I did not watch this concert. However I very much doubt your objective view on that as you also thought that Muti&#039;s New Years Concert with the Philis was bad, when it was, in fact, one of the best in a long time!
It was embarrassing not for Muti but for the so called &quot;stars&quot; like Welser-Möst or the totally dull Dudamel.

Muti IS music. People like the latter are marketing created nobodies who 30 years ago would not even have managed to get a job as a 1. Kappelmeister in a small German Stadttheater.

Knowing Elisabeth Kulman and Daniel Behle I also very much doubt that the don&#039;t feel the music...

That these things might not be the forte of Thielemann is rather clear.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not watch this concert. However I very much doubt your objective view on that as you also thought that Muti&#8217;s New Years Concert with the Philis was bad, when it was, in fact, one of the best in a long time!<br />
It was embarrassing not for Muti but for the so called &#8220;stars&#8221; like Welser-Möst or the totally dull Dudamel.</p>
<p>Muti IS music. People like the latter are marketing created nobodies who 30 years ago would not even have managed to get a job as a 1. Kappelmeister in a small German Stadttheater.</p>
<p>Knowing Elisabeth Kulman and Daniel Behle I also very much doubt that the don&#8217;t feel the music&#8230;</p>
<p>That these things might not be the forte of Thielemann is rather clear.</p>
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		<title>By: CS</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2018 08:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Und angeschaut haben Sie es aber Alle!

But all of you have watched it.....

Are you only here to critisize Thielemanns show?

Just let the world go round and round, this is called TOLERANCE

And the mezzo is Elisabeth KULMAN and the Tenor is Daniel BEHLE, don t you re read your own critics before it is published????]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Und angeschaut haben Sie es aber Alle!</p>
<p>But all of you have watched it&#8230;..</p>
<p>Are you only here to critisize Thielemanns show?</p>
<p>Just let the world go round and round, this is called TOLERANCE</p>
<p>And the mezzo is Elisabeth KULMAN and the Tenor is Daniel BEHLE, don t you re read your own critics before it is published????</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Linda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2018 06:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well now we know you didn’t like it. So what? I’m a music lover who sees music all over the world and I loved this concert. So speak for yourself and let other people enjoy!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well now we know you didn’t like it. So what? I’m a music lover who sees music all over the world and I loved this concert. So speak for yourself and let other people enjoy!</p>
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		<title>By: Volker Sondershausen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Volker Sondershausen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2018 18:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Danke für diese Kritik! Die war auch bitter nötig! Das Konzert eine einzige Peinlichkeit!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danke für diese Kritik! Die war auch bitter nötig! Das Konzert eine einzige Peinlichkeit!</p>
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		<title>By: Dieter Klug</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dieter Klug]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2018 15:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Volltreffer: an dem Abend hat sich vieles falsch angefühlt: opulente musikalische Arrangements standen neben  Solisten, die stilistisch ziemlich daneben lagen, das &quot;Veropern&quot; ist den Titeln überhaupt nicht bekommen, für mich das glaubwürdigste noch die Marek-Weber-Nummern und die Moderatorin, die den Versuch einer kritischen Einordnung unternahm. Aber taugt so ein Programm überhaupt für Silvester, wo das Publikum nur auf unbeschwerte und leichte Unterhaltung aus ist? Auch die optische Umsetzung durchs ZDF war verharmlosend, nur glitzernde Unterhaltung im &quot;kulturellen Leuchtturm&quot; Semperoper - dafür ist das Thema zu heikel. Ziemlich unsensibel und geschmacklos - da hätten auch Fernsehredakteure und Dramaturgen mal drauf schauen müssen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Volltreffer: an dem Abend hat sich vieles falsch angefühlt: opulente musikalische Arrangements standen neben  Solisten, die stilistisch ziemlich daneben lagen, das &#8220;Veropern&#8221; ist den Titeln überhaupt nicht bekommen, für mich das glaubwürdigste noch die Marek-Weber-Nummern und die Moderatorin, die den Versuch einer kritischen Einordnung unternahm. Aber taugt so ein Programm überhaupt für Silvester, wo das Publikum nur auf unbeschwerte und leichte Unterhaltung aus ist? Auch die optische Umsetzung durchs ZDF war verharmlosend, nur glitzernde Unterhaltung im &#8220;kulturellen Leuchtturm&#8221; Semperoper &#8211; dafür ist das Thema zu heikel. Ziemlich unsensibel und geschmacklos &#8211; da hätten auch Fernsehredakteure und Dramaturgen mal drauf schauen müssen.</p>
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		<title>By: Bieri Erich</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bieri Erich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2018 11:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Thielemann can doo what ever he want&#039;s. There will ne allways &quot;pro und contra&quot;. I think they all did a great job. Best wishes and a lot of good energy for 2018!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Thielemann can doo what ever he want&#8217;s. There will ne allways &#8220;pro und contra&#8221;. I think they all did a great job. Best wishes and a lot of good energy for 2018!</p>
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		<title>By: Helga Kohmann</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Helga Kohmann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2018 23:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Totale Pegida-Spießigkeit! Peinlich.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totale Pegida-Spießigkeit! Peinlich.</p>
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